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All the unemployed need is tough love and tough sh-t

Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:03 AM EDT
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By James Owens-1128509

Republican Rep from Kentucky Jim Bunning

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If you’re an unemployed individual, have ever been unemployed or think you might become unemployed at some future date; you have a target on your back. From the rhetoric being slung around today, it would seem the Republicans wish to use the unemployed as scapegoats for all that is wrong with America.

Republicans are not heartless; they have love in their hearts for big business, hedge funds, tax breaks for the wealthy and money in their bank accounts. They love lavish parties, fancy homes, luxury vacations and the grand pensions they will draw when they are dragged from their Washington offices kicking a screaming.

They see themselves as saviors of the American way of like, but that way of life is something few real Americans enjoy or understand.

The GOP used procedural tricks in the Senate to stall the vote on extended unemployment benefits. This past week they began campaigning for an extension of the Bush tax cuts. They are concerned about unemployment benefits because they are not paid for, yet they have no concerned about paying for a continued tax cut for the wealthy.

However, the Republicans do not want the spotlight on themselves, rather, they want it on something and someone else – darken your opponents path and yours will look whiter. They would like us to forget the failed policies they often refer to are failed conservative policies, so to stir up emotion and excite their base, they have targeted the unemployed, who they claim are drawing free lunch money off the backs of working Americans. Their argument may have more credence if more Americans were working.

The rhetoric has become uglier

Nevada Republican Congressman Dean Heller, who is against extending unemployment benefits asked “Is the government now creating hobos?”

Tom Corbett, (R-Pennsylvania) said “the jobs are there,” but the out-of-work don’t want them.

Nevada Senate candidate Sharron Angle has said the unemployed are “spoiled” and need a little “tough love.”

South Carolina Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer compared the unemployed to stray animals that should not be fed. Bauer said giving the unemployed the safety net of unemployment insurance is "facilitating the problem” and “they will reproduce, especially ones that don't think too much further than that …

they don’t know any better."

Sen. Judd Gregg, (R-NH) claims unemployment benefits are stifling economic growth. Unemployment benefits, Gregg said, “Encourages people to, rather than go out and look for work, to stay on unemployment.”

Sen. Orin hatch (R-Utah) asked, “Why do we keep giving money to people who are going to go use it on drugs instead of their families?”

Finally, during a discussion regarding unemployment benefits, Jim Bunning( R-Ky) was overheard telling Democratic Senators Dick Durbin and Jeff Merkley, “tough sh_t,” when referring to the plight of those running out of benefits.

Adding it all up

Those two words, tough @!$%#, sum up the conservative attitude toward the working people of America. They claim they are concerned with deficit spending and want everything paid for; yet, they aim to extend the Bush tax credits for the wealthiest people in America.

It’s thought a vote on extended benefits will clear the House again, and move to the Senate where it will finally be voted on because there are now enough votes to overcome the GOP filibuster. Nevertheless, the fight will not be over and this writer believes the ultimate aim of the conservatives is to eliminate unemployment insurance altogether.

If someone repeats the same words and phrases over and over again it begins to sound like the truth. Lies can be woven into the fabric of belief if you just keep telling them over and over again.

Before the idea that the working class is keeping America from growth begins to take root, it must be pulled from the sewer from which it came and discarded as trash should be. The GOP is counting on the unemployed and working class to stay home on election day, but this core American base must be energized to fight back because the only weapon they have is the ballot box.

Conservatives like to shake their heads and point their fingers at entitlements as the root of all evil. They label social programs as “entitlements” because it implies those who receive any kind of assistance believe they have a God-giving right to receive it. The implication creates a vision in the public’s eye that lazy people are sitting on couches watching television with their feet up drinking beer and feeding at the public trough.

In interview over the past several days Republicans have been asked repeatedly what programs they would cut to reduce the deficit. Not one of them in the many interviews conducted would commit to cutting any particular program. It’s an election year, so they don’t want their policies known. They play it safe by pointing to the other guy and saying, “this has not worked, we have the answer.”

Their answer is to cut social programs to the bone, if not repeal them altogether. Programs like unemployment insurance, Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Think of the money big business could save if they didn’t have to pay into these programs. The Republicans have no answers for our economic woes; all they have are well-coordinated phrases such as “Americans want”, “fiscal responsibility,” tough love” and “tough sh_t.”

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trm2008

Great article. I'm adding to my favorites for future reference, if you don't mind. (friend request sent)

the ultimate aim of the conservatives is to eliminate unemployment insurance altogether.

IMHO, the ultimate aim of the conservatives is to eliminate the middle class altogether.

  • 25 votes
#1 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:35 AM EDT
dirtyharriet1010

Hate to say it but there are a lot of unemployed out there that will not accept a job until summer is over.

A lot of them will also not accept a job that pays less than what they were making prior to losing their job.

This is not to say that there are people with real needs who will accept anything. I have been out there and applied for every job in my field with almost no regard to salary. Since I had over 20 years experience I was told I was overqualified even though I was willing to take a 20K salary cut.

If unemployment is extended every person collecting should have to submit proof of job applications and/or job interviews every other week or no benefits will be paid.

Other than that NO EXTENSIONS!!!!!!

  • 1 vote
#1.1 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:00 AM EDT
stu103

Harriet,

Have you reported these people to UI offices for refusing jobs? Have the companies that are offering jobs reported people that refuse a job. They are supposed to report any one who refuses a job offer and UI investigates. Do you have proof of these people who are refusing jobs? Do you know the rules of the federal extensions? You must show proof of an in-person attempt at a job application. You must report where, when and who you saw among other things before you get your benefits. You are on UI you should know this or are you just spewing talking points? Will you house an unemployed person who no longer has help? Will you put that person to work mowing your lawn or painting your house/apartment? Have you sent your checks back due to your beliefs?

  • 21 votes
#1.2 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:13 AM EDT
trm2008

Harriet--

have to submit proof of job applications

In my state, you have to submit proof that you looked for work at least two days a week in order to be eligible for benefits. I'm sure it is probably required in most, if not all states.

That being said, I'm also quite sure that the vast majority of unemployment recipients are no different than you.

  • 20 votes
#1.3 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:24 AM EDT
Justin Smith-1635683

Why do people seem to think that you don't have to do anything in order to get unemployment benefits? First you have to have lost your job through no fault of your own and then in order to get benefits you have to show that you are looking for work. Even if there were people who sat around and did nothing those people would be a small minority, should the majority of down on their luck hard working individuals have to suffer because of the lazy?

  • 15 votes
#1.4 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:14 PM EDT
dirtyharriet1010

I know a person who is collecting unemployment AND social security. She has collected for 60 weeks and has NEVER had to show proof of an interview, job application or anything. She has no intention of going back to work.

In fact it disgusts me that she looks at it as a gift since she has never collected before.

When I was on unemployment 2 years ago I never had to show proof of anything. Just log on and certify every week. Never come in and see some one. I kept a log of all interviews, registrations with employment agencies and calls.

Currently I am working. I also live in NYC. BTW I am helping support my daughter, her husband and 2 children since they are out of work and are going to lose their house. If that happens all 4 of them will move in to my 4 room apartment.

  • 1 vote
#1.5 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:30 PM EDT
firsty

If unemployment is extended every person collecting should have to submit proof of job applications and/or job interviews every other week or no benefits will be paid.

already part of the process in many states, depending on what tier you're in.

Why do people seem to think that you don't have to do anything in order to get unemployment benefits? First you have to have lost your job through no fault of your own and then in order to get benefits you have to show that you are looking for work. Even if there were people who sat around and did nothing those people would be a small minority, should the majority of down on their luck hard working individuals have to suffer because of the lazy?

exactly. well said.

  • 10 votes
#1.6 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:31 PM EDT
sheaster

I know a person who is collecting unemployment AND social security.

So?

  • 11 votes
#1.7 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:44 PM EDT
dirtyharriet1010

sheaster

Did you read the rest of my post? If not go back and read it and you will see what I am not happy about.

  • 1 vote
#1.8 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:45 PM EDT
sheaster

I read it all. You said nothing further about Social Security so I'm wondering why you mentioned it at all.

  • 11 votes
#1.9 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:49 PM EDT
Mike Rupert

Good job, Mr. James Owens. Keep it up.

  • 13 votes
#1.10 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:07 PM EDT
dirtyharriet1010

sheaster

Mentioned it because I think her attitude about thinking unemployment is a gift is not right. She was let go because she was working 4 10 hour days and her company wanted her to work 5 8 hour days and she didn't want to. They did not contest unemployment.

    #1.11 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:19 PM EDT
    Arlene Tognetti

    Yes, good job keep up the great writing and inspiration to

    open peoples minds.

    Kudos to you, James Owens

    • 6 votes
    #1.12 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:21 PM EDT
    trm2008

    Evidently only one person in the whole country actually deserves to collect unemployment.

    http://www.labor.ny.gov/workforcenypartners/PDFs/REAMaintainingUIEligibility.pdf

    • 12 votes
    #1.13 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:31 PM EDT
    James Owens-1128509

    I agree, that is an underlying aim of the ultra conservatives, and what really gets to me is the fact that the very people they are trying to eliminate are the very people who made this country what it is today, and without the middle class who would the wealthy take advantage of? I mean that question seriously. What would they do without the poor? They would have to cut each others throats.

    • 8 votes
    #1.14 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:09 PM EDT
    trm2008

    James-Do you really think the ultra conservatives are thinking that far ahead? It looks like all they worry about is the next election.

    • 6 votes
    #1.15 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:32 PM EDT
    James Owens-1128509

    I never underestimate the greed of mankind.

    • 6 votes
    #1.16 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:35 PM EDT
    Jim420

    dirtyharriet, your friend, unemployment is being paid for by her former employers unemployment insurance premiums, and they are responsible, because it was their demands to change the work week, not your friends fault, and also, she must report her ssi benefits, so her unemployment checks would be affected by that also, and will run out. eventually, even if she get federal extensions.

    but I do see why you are offended at her laziness,

    • 6 votes
    #1.17 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:14 PM EDT
    iroquis

    dirtyharriet is upset because her deadbeat daughter married a deadbeat and they are draining her income to live {sarc}

    Glad you are working Harriet, and, sorry about your daughter and her partner, I hope the extension helps everyone get through this.

    I cannot believe anyone wishes to be out of work. The unemployed are humanbeings, citizens, it is only the most basic, simple human decency that we maintain the dignity of their lives until we can get this economy running again. The projection is for another million home foreclosures this year. these will not be investment or speculative or second homes.

    • 5 votes
    #1.18 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:31 PM EDT
    James Owens-1128509

    The unemployed are human beings, citizens, it is only the most basic, simple human decency that we maintain the dignity of their lives until we can get this economy running again.

    Well said!

    • 4 votes
    #1.19 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:09 PM EDT
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    firsty

    even if this bill passes, the 99'ers are SOL.

    you've summed up the GOP attitude perfectly. it's amazing that these people have such disdain for their own fellow citizens, much less their own voters.

    and they're so quick to blame their own problems on obama or "the left" -- the party of personal responsibility plays the victim so well.

    • 13 votes
    Reply#2 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:38 AM EDT
    1623 yankee

    Hey firsty!

    I think that you underestimate the gop "leadership" with the words disdain and fellow citizens. I think that a more accurate assessment would be that they view the real citizens of this country as maggots or worse. Disdain implies a sneer or a scowl with a modicum of disgust. It must be remembered that these "people" are the minions of the wealthy elite and often count themselves among them. I would forward that a more correct characterization would be loathing. So, with your permission (I hope), I will reconstruct your sentence,

    "it's amazing that these people have such disdain for their own fellow citizens, much less their own voters."

    to

    "it's amazing how much loathing these employees of the wealthy elite have for American maggots, much less their own voters."

    See what I mean? Thanks for your forebearance firsty. Just sayin...

    • 8 votes
    #2.1 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:58 PM EDT
    firsty

    hell yes. and a good editor is always appreciated! :)

    • 3 votes
    #2.2 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:01 PM EDT
    Pastafarian

    "it's amazing how much loathing these employees of the wealthy elite have for American maggots, much less their own voters."

    I'd go one step further:

    "it's amazing how much loathing these whores of the wealthy elite have for American maggots, much less their own voters."

    • 5 votes
    #2.3 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:16 PM EDT
    James Owens-1128509

    You are right, the 99ers are SOL, and I'm sorry for that. I read today that if you have been out of work for two years your chances of getting hired drop by fifty percent. I was laid off my from my job with a new wire service in November of 2008. I've applied for countless positions, including positions manufacturing, hotel management and many other jobs that pay far less than I was making. I am 59-years-old and I believe my age creates an additional hurdle in finding a job. To make it worse, I live in the Orlando, Florida metro area where jobs loses are continuing to climb. I wonder sometimes if I will find a job before I'm old enough to draw Social Security. Thankfully, my wife is still employed and she makes, just enough, for us to get by. I would take any job I'm capable of doing. I'd take a part-time job at Starbucks for minimum wage. I would rather work for $200 a week than take the government's $300 a week because I'm sick of the insinuation that because I am out of work I'm lazy and worthless. I know that isn't true, and those making the accusations know it isn't true for most of us, but the unemployed have become a convenient ball to for them to kick around, and all the kicking takes peoples thoughts off the real issues. (I believe that is their intention) Hang in there everyone, we still have the voting booth, and if you have any pride, no one can take that away from you unless you allow them to.

    • 9 votes
    #2.4 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:22 PM EDT
    trm2008

    I'm sick of the insinuation that because I am out of work I'm lazy and worthless

    What amazes me is to see someone collecting unemployment imply that everyone else is lazy or unwilling to take less money. Now that really takes the cake!(1.1)

    Seriously, we all need to vote in November. There's just too much on the line.

    • 10 votes
    #2.5 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:37 PM EDT
    James Owens-1128509

    I was just telling someone this morning I was going to get involved in voter registration. How can I sit here and preach if I don't put my words to practice? Actions speak louder than words, so we all need to take action. It makes no difference what party you affiliate yourself with, as long as you are involved in the process. VOTE!

    • 8 votes
    #2.6 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:42 PM EDT
    McSpocky

    Update. Unemployment benefits will finally get to be voted on. The Republican filibuster is over.

    http://illuminate.newsvine.com/_news/2010/07/20/4716521-senate-just-passed-cloture-ending-filibuster-against-extended-unemployment-benefits

    • 10 votes
    #2.7 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:49 PM EDT
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    sheaster

    Tom Corbett, (R-Pennsylvania) said “the jobs are there,” but the out-of-work don’t want them.

    Here's what baffles me: If the jobs are out there and benefits are not necessary, that would mean the administration's plan is working and we are well on our way to economic recovery, right? Therefore, those against an extension are in support of Obama, right?

    Wrong- gack!

    • 9 votes
    Reply#3 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:40 AM EDT
    trm2008

    And Corbett is full of crap.

    • 13 votes
    #3.1 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:26 AM EDT
    Justin Smith-1635683

    Republicans get to have it both ways, there are plenty of jobs for the jobless and the stimulus has failed to create jobs.

    • 10 votes
    #3.2 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:09 PM EDT
    firsty

    fortunately, the GOP doesnt need logic to appeal to its base. superficial, hyperbolic, emotional arguments are sufficient.

    • 10 votes
    #3.3 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:31 PM EDT
    cookin mama

    I know someone who has been out of work for over 9 months has been looking had 2 or 3 interviews but no offers, he is male in his 30's has a family with a special needs child. Oh yea he is a (R). Just with so many out of work or underemployed. There are hundreds of apps for any listing. I think some business just say they want to hire but in reality they dont more profit for them.

    • 3 votes
    #3.4 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:00 PM EDT
    bore-head007

    cookin, everybody is talking about job's.We all need 'em,we all want'em. Nobody is talking about their customer base.If my business was swamped with customers, I'd hire like a MOFO!

    If small business can't get money from a bank, how do customers get financing for their project's.If you are a remodeler, are you gonna hire a work force when you have no customer's? Working nickle dime, won't cut it.

    Everyone talk's job's ,lret's talk customers.

    • 1 vote
    #3.5 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:13 PM EDT
    Reply
    tyler-1708225

    Why doesn't the administration tell us where all those jobs are that they say are being created. Give the unemployed an opportunity to apply for them since I do believe they want to work. Tell them what states, part time, full time, wages, benefits, permanent short term? Information would go a long way in letting the unemployed know if it would be beneficial to pursue them.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#4 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:55 AM EDT
    cookin mama

    Have you not seen some road work being done. We have road work being done all over my state, thanks to the POTUS stimulus.

    • 3 votes
    #4.1 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:02 PM EDT
    Reply
    tyler-1708225

    Along with cutting all social programs, how about we cut all give a ways to other nations. Another 500 million to Pakistan this week in addition to the 7.5 billion already. And according to Hillary they still haven't committed to liking us and she believes they know where Bin Laden is. And there are plenty more countries being giving pay outs at the expense of our unemployed.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#5 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:58 AM EDT
    James Owens-1128509

    That's what is so great about America, we give away cash to win friends and impress people overseas, but if you're a citizen of the US, a taxpayer yourself, you are SOL.

    • 6 votes
    #5.1 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:25 PM EDT
    Minan59

    hat's what is so great about America, we give away cash to win friends and impress people overseas, but if you're a citizen of the US, a taxpayer yourself, you are SOL.

    Sure doesn't make a lot of sense.

      #5.2 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:51 PM EDT
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      Bubba-939441

      Mr Obama spent all the money on the failed stimulus package and health care. No more money left for extended unemployment without breaking his promise to cut the deficit in half?

        Reply#6 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:18 AM EDT
        BAD1V

        And you spam every seed with this same comment.

        • 10 votes
        #6.1 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:07 PM EDT
        Sharpear

        Apparently following the rights "repeat the lie til it's true" mantra

        • 5 votes
        #6.2 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:12 PM EDT
        cookin mama

        And you sperm every seed with this same comment.

        • 1 vote
        #6.3 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:04 PM EDT
        bore-head007

        bubba mh, I've told ya!!The governors f.cked up the stimulus ,using it to balance their budgets.AGAIN. balance their budgets!

          #6.4 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:18 PM EDT
          James Owens-1128509

          Actually, Obama has not spent all the stimulus money, that's why the Repubs were wanting him to use the stimulus money to pay for the extended benefits.

          • 3 votes
          #6.5 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:40 PM EDT
          Reply
          Metal Guitarist

          Americans need not fear a foreign army when the Republican Party can make their lives more miserable than any foreign power.

          • 11 votes
          Reply#7 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:57 AM EDT
          Bubba-939441

          "Republican Party can make their lives more miserable than any foreign power."

          Better get used to it Metal. They'll be taking over the house soon.

            #7.1 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:59 AM EDT
            Arlene Tognetti

            Ditto, Metal Guitarist!

            • 4 votes
            #7.2 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:22 PM EDT
            Metal Guitarist

            Not with their current rhetoric they're not.

            • 7 votes
            #7.3 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:52 PM EDT
            Minan59

            The republicans have done far more damage to the country than the terrorists could ever hope to do.

              #7.4 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:53 PM EDT
              Reply
              me-30

              This is a great article. We the people need to pull together and take advantage of alternative forms of currency and form our own communities were we buy and sell amoungst ourselves without the use of the US dollar. See these great videos to understand what you can do to start the movement. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62zG9ehnjKg&feature=player_embedded and POIU.Com video-http://www.youtube.com/user/POiUChampion#p/u/22/NfDCFYTvZbQ

              • 1 vote
              Reply#8 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:09 PM EDT
              James Owens-1128509

              True community living. It's not an impossible scenario to carry out.

                #8.1 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:48 PM EDT
                Reply
                katrix

                Of course, what these guys fail to realize is that it's better to pay for extended unemployment than it would be to pay for food stamps and shelter for people when they lose their homes and have no way to buy food because they have no jobs. And it is even harder to find a job when you're living in a homeless shelter and have lost your car.

                But we can't extend them indefinitely without cutting something else. This out of control spending that Bush did, and Obama is doing, is insane.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#9 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:32 PM EDT
                Pami G

                Dateline Nbc recently aired a program about migrant farm workers who reported earning 30k during the summer months. Thats more than a customer service retail employee makes in a year!

                It seems though that farmers only want to hire immigrants for these jobs, why? It seems an underskilled American could use such jobs and you don't have to worry about being professionaly dressed so it seems you could save some money.

                Illegal immigrants and their children have discovered a very profitable lifestyle here in America. No cost for child care, no education required, free housing in many cases. Add welfare recieved for anchor babies, free lunches at school, free health care and food pantrys and you can save a tidy sum of money.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#10 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:33 PM EDT
                Arlene Tognetti

                Pami G

                Most Americans, especially white Americans don't like

                working in the fields anymore..We used to...Most immigrants

                who come to America, like my own family, worked in physical labor

                jobs for just enough to get by. By the way, the majority of farm workers

                don't work all year long, except for States where the crops can grow all year long.

                Migrant Farm Workers are legal: You are comparing Illegals with Migrants, get your

                story straight: Migrant Farm Workers pay into Social Security, and other benefits. Illegals

                don't.

                • 8 votes
                #10.1 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:30 PM EDT
                trm2008

                Dateline Nbc recently aired a program about migrant farm workers who reported earning 30k during the summer months

                Do you have a link for that? The migrant workers here only make about $14,000 for a six month season--with a lot of overtime. I bet they'd like to know where those jobs are. Heck, I'd like to have a job like that myself.

                • 11 votes
                #10.2 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:41 PM EDT
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                obama012350Deleted
                bkoz

                What has unemployment have to do with government? What ever happened to personal responsibility and accountibility, or is that term not in most people's vocabuary any more? The old term of pay yourself first and save for a rainy day just was swept under the rug in trying to keep up with the Jones'es big screen's, SUV's, credit card's, vacation's, boat's and parties. Now you want big daddy to pay for your misguided foolishness and hang the bill on responsible hardworking taxpayers.

                  Reply#12 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:40 PM EDT
                  James Owens-1128509

                  bkoz, can you tell me what our spending habits have to do with our unemployment? You are comparing apples to oranges, no, you aren't even that close in your comparison.

                  Since personal responsibility is so important to you, maybe you'd agree that we should take away Social Security too - I mean - those people should have seen this coming and saved for a rainy day, right? I find the people who are callused like you seem to be. are the people who don't need any help from anyone, and that's fine, good for you!

                  Unemployment insurance was created in response to the Great Depression when people wandered across country looking for a few hours of work, lived in tent cities, ate from soup kitchens and the like. Unemployment was meant to be a safety net, just as Social Security. Unemployment is funded in part by our employers, who, I'm sure, consider that payment a benefit to the workers, therefore pay workers a little less.

                  It wasn't the average working stiff that got us into the mess we are in right now, it was the lack of government oversight and the greed and corruption of people who took advantage of the system. That being said, I suppose it was ok for the rich to take advantage of the system, but good Lord don't let the poor try to pick up any of the crumbs left behind.

                  • 9 votes
                  #12.1 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:34 PM EDT
                  trm2008

                  http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/rich-homeowners-walk-away-mortgages/

                  It's different when rich people do it.

                  • 8 votes
                  #12.2 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:40 PM EDT
                  James Owens-1128509

                  Now you know the only dishonest people in this country are poor people. Surely someone made this up, the rich would not do such a dishonest thing. LMAO

                  • 6 votes
                  #12.3 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:27 PM EDT
                  Carol-99

                  trm, that link is shocking! I can't believe that rich people would behave irresponsibly. (sarcasm)

                  The CoreLogic data suggest that the rich do not seem to have concerns about the civic good uppermost in their mind, especially when it comes to investment and second homes. Nor do they appear to be particularly worried about being sued by their lender or frozen out of future loans by Fannie Mae, possible consequences of default…

                  “Those with high net worth have other resources to lean on if they get in trouble,” said Mr. Khater, the analyst. “If they’re going delinquent faster than anyone else, that tells me they are doing so willingly.”

                  • 2 votes
                  #12.4 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:51 PM EDT
                  cookin mama

                  i am surprised that the rich people let it out.

                    #12.5 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:08 PM EDT
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                    bore-head007

                    Unemployment insurance was created in response to the Great Depression when people wandered across country looking for a few hours of work, lived in tent cities, ate from soup kitchens and the like. Unemployment was meant to be a safety net, just as Social Security. Unemployment is funded in part by our employers, who, I'm sure, consider that payment a benefit to the workers, therefore pay workers a little less.

                    What a great article.You are an excellent writer , and could not be more precise about the gooberborg's. I really do think they want to see those tent citys, a mark of success for them.They will actually have done something, creating those tent citys.

                    If only I could converse with any of them , in the tavern of my choice, for a minute.....

                    Tent citys on every gop front lawn!

                    • 4 votes
                    Reply#13 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:38 PM EDT
                    James Owens-1128509

                    Thanks bore-head. Some issues need to be presented with a certain passion, and this is surely one of them.

                    • 1 vote
                    #13.1 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:13 PM EDT
                    bore-head007

                    Best I've seen yet, Jim

                      #13.2 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:19 PM EDT
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